Faulty Arguments Against Veganism, Part 2

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Faulty Arguments Against Veganism, Part 2

She sure is enjoying herself

She sure is enjoying herself

This one is kind of a two-fer, since they’re related arguments.  Check out part one here.

Argument: “Animals would be worse off if all people were vegetarians. Think about it. Would a farmer keep Chickens and Cows and Pigs around and pay for them for free. Hell no if they would be free. At which point they would be overpopulated and all over the place.”

Response: The cows, chickens, turkeys, etc, that we eat are not coming into the world naturally; in fact, some of them will never see an animal of the opposite gender in their entire lives. This is basically a simple case of supply-and-demand. If we stop demanding meat, eggs, and dairy, they’ll stop breeding animals to supply us with them. (Learn more about the artificial insemination processes of turkey, chicken, and cows.)

This next person sort of understands some of the facts, and then misses the point completely.

Argument: “These animals are bred only to be killed.It’s harsh,but if we didn’t do that,cows and chickens and rabbits etc would be long extinct.”

Response: Um…rabbits?

Anyway, I’m not sure why the idea of extinction is such a issue when it comes to farm animals.  They do not exist–not as we’ve bred them, anyway–in nature and they do not fit in to any particular ecology; if they died out, the environment would be way better off for it.  Part of the tragedy of extinction when it comes to a wild animal is the effects thereof.   (A good example of this is the black-footed ferret, which has been endangered for years–and briefly “extinct in the wild”–because we keep killing off their primary prey, prairie dogs.)  There isn’t any kind of equivalent situation for farm animals, because there are no species (outside of humans) who rely on their existence.

Species as a whole do not suffer, but individuals do–and individual animals are suffering immensely right now.  I don’t think that anyone who really knows what goes on in the dairy and meat industry actually believing that farm animals are better off existing as they do!


3 Comments

wo_dao

June 28, 2009 at 1:00 am

heh, I won’t forget these similar “arguments” some make.

I end up asking….

“Ahem, did you forget WILD chickens, WILD cows, and WILD pigs, before we even use them as captive slaves?”

Then they make all this slanderous BS where; I’d rather waste time pulling pranks and getting kicks from that. Ah well. I guess I’ll leave it at that before I ramble other offensive truths…hahah

dawnofanewera

June 30, 2009 at 8:29 am

“They wouldn’t even have a life unless there was a demand for meat.” Some guy said to me recently.

I like to bring up the possibility of sanctuaries where animals can be “rehabilitated” and nurtured until they develop some of the survival skills they once had. Imagine if the petting zoos from our youth were not a cover up – plucking one animal from millions as representation that its peers are living similar lives – but actual human-animal interactive facilities that exemplified living and letting live..?

Roger

July 5, 2009 at 6:19 pm

Just a thought: there are some species who depend on farmed animals–things like the swine flu virus, who wouldn’t be around if it weren’t for what we do to pigs. But of course it’s no tragedy if the planet loses H1N1 & some of the other nasty diseases we’ve developed on farms.

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